tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post3733187428197226224..comments2024-03-13T23:42:25.845-07:00Comments on Animondays: Just on the HorizonDavid B. Levyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-65981987547585743542009-11-17T09:42:44.796-08:002009-11-17T09:42:44.796-08:00I feel embarrassed to admit that this book was not...I feel embarrassed to admit that this book was not part of our required reading at SVA when I attended in 2000-03. It looks exceptional and I will look to get myself a copy to read on vacation this winter. <br /><br />One comment I found interesting in your piece was the part about the there being no work. I feel that is almost the common professorial mantra. I heard it a lot in 2003, I guess you did too, and I hear its the way it is now. Maybe there always is work and us animators just always wish there was more. Personally I want to see NYC blow up (with animation), but will it ever be enough, or will we still lament that work is sparse?<br /><br />I was recently asked by an animator in LA if it was worth it to move to NY for work, he was having a hard time in LA with Nicktoons not hiring that much and Cartoon Network drying up. I said there is stuff, but I think LA will be equally hard, also the productions that he wants wont be in NYC as the guy really is an animator and there aren't many things going on TV series wise with drawn characters. I could be wrong.Rob Kohrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15004557795344711687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-74562237772001585372009-11-16T18:11:14.107-08:002009-11-16T18:11:14.107-08:00Animators as cops...now that's a great animati...Animators as cops...now that's a great animation!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09825861841492907040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-209207986339947692009-11-16T17:50:51.729-08:002009-11-16T17:50:51.729-08:00Last long, I tell my friends.Last long, I tell my friends.Eunice Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07611748302289860998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-48558845616644364112009-11-16T15:44:19.569-08:002009-11-16T15:44:19.569-08:00What else do you love about me?What else do you love about me?Elliot Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15952897418341461593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-31582902233227349812009-11-16T14:30:25.511-08:002009-11-16T14:30:25.511-08:00I love Elliot's comparison about us animation ...I love Elliot's comparison about us animation folk being actors in a play (having to audition, etc.). It is a very apt comparison because like the actor, the animator has selected a career in the arts. The arts are unstable and that's that. If we wanted stability we should have become cops or worked at the post office.David B. Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-86786821936763664712009-11-16T14:21:06.000-08:002009-11-16T14:21:06.000-08:00I too, love this book. It's the first one I r...I too, love this book. It's the first one I recommend people when they show interest in our industry. And Allan's book is a nice follow up - adding quips and just the right amount of classy gossip.Linda Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06900569556420925136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-59949096389640237992009-11-16T13:59:14.898-08:002009-11-16T13:59:14.898-08:00Allan's name in my last post should have read:...Allan's name in my last post should have read:<br />Allan Neuwirth. Sorry for my bad spelling.David B. Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-69529468817423547622009-11-16T13:58:03.712-08:002009-11-16T13:58:03.712-08:00Francisco,
Allan Nuewirth sort of wrote the conti...Francisco,<br /><br />Allan Nuewirth sort of wrote the continuation of this Maltin's book with his "Makin' Toons." But, he wrote it around an interview format that made a critical analysis pretty impossible. In short, all the people of the so-called "second golden age" are still alive so it is harder to be critical and truly objective about their output. Enough time had gone by with Maltin's book to allow his book to draw some conclusions. <br /><br />So––maybe another twenty years or more have to go by before a proper history of the 90s animation boom is told.David B. Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-41926614078385210382009-11-16T12:42:29.715-08:002009-11-16T12:42:29.715-08:00Dave, you should write the continuation of this. ...Dave, you should write the continuation of this. Start where he left offFranciscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15438737141034238092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-53530867643208873192009-11-16T11:18:06.125-08:002009-11-16T11:18:06.125-08:00Emmett - you talk of needing a sense of optimism.
...Emmett - you talk of needing a sense of optimism.<br />You are certainly not alone in feeling this way.<br /><br />The animation community is, as we all know, reasonably small and often very tight knit.<br /><br />Even more so when we're all working on a project together - very much like actors in a play.<br /><br />When you're part of the cast it's GREAT! WOO HOOO!<br />But when you auditioned and didn't get in, it's not much fun.<br />Standing on the outside looking in is hardly inspiring or boosting to the ego or the spirit.<br /><br />Don't worry about waves or ages, matey.<br />Just make stuff.Elliot Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15952897418341461593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-60204272454537955402009-11-16T10:56:47.413-08:002009-11-16T10:56:47.413-08:00Nice post, Dave. There's certainly a sense of ...Nice post, Dave. There's certainly a sense of optimism that most of us need right now.<br /><br />I sort of agree with what Elliot is saying about citing another "Golden Age" of animation. Personally, I've always just called it the next "new wave" of whatever it is (Disney, Cartoon Network, etc.). In my opinion, the Golden age ends somewhere in the 1950's. <br /><br />The recent announcement of the five animated features qualifying for the Best Animated Feature Academy Award was kind of reassuring. I'm more concerned with the fact that so many animated features were made and released this year. They are not all amazing, but it is a sign that animation may no longer be seen as a children's medium, but capable of much more. <br /><br />As far as jobs are concerned. Well, I get the sense that if you are at the top or bottom, animation jobs are still pretty uneven. But at least you can say that instead of there not being any jobs in animation.Emmetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02550182438003731076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-56247019540135274732009-11-16T09:59:56.120-08:002009-11-16T09:59:56.120-08:00Agree with your comments, Dave. Maltin's book ...Agree with your comments, Dave. Maltin's book is a great resource, having used it in my History of Animation class and will be again this Spring. It will be interesting to see how the nineties, this current decade, and what is yet to be will eventually be classified in animation history. Yes, these are very exciting times!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09825861841492907040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-83930475421022696372009-11-16T07:05:15.235-08:002009-11-16T07:05:15.235-08:00Dave - I was actually just about to update my post...Dave - I was actually just about to update my post because I'd left off the one sentence I'd intended to include when I started typing the comment.<br /><br />I figured you'd used that particular expression (Golden Age) because it's an animation standard and a convenient way to categorize things, not through some longing to go back in time so you can Walt Disney a hug (although he'd be a lucky fella to get one from you).Elliot Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15952897418341461593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-63053385386088717502009-11-16T06:55:45.385-08:002009-11-16T06:55:45.385-08:00Point taken, Elliot.
But, I supposed people are ...Point taken, Elliot. <br /><br />But, I supposed people are always going to look back at pockets of time and classify them as something. Contrary to what my post might suggest, I spend more time looking forward than looking back. But, from time to time I like to look back and remind people of where we are at and what is possible.David B. Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-3161496448175102322009-11-16T06:51:42.568-08:002009-11-16T06:51:42.568-08:00"Golden Age of Animation".
How many of t..."Golden Age of Animation".<br />How many of these are we going to have?<br />Are our grandkids going to be saying "Remember the 6th golden age of animation? Wasn't the 12th age a great age?".<br />Does it ever graduate from gold to silver to copper?<br />What are we in now?<br />With all the Flash puppetry maybe it's The Wooden Age of Animation.<br />I propose we do away with Golden Ages and attempt to do better work (which is what you're really saying, I think).Elliot Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15952897418341461593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-28876703799101851302009-11-16T05:29:00.633-08:002009-11-16T05:29:00.633-08:00It's an exciting time to be in animation for s...It's an exciting time to be in animation for sure!Mike Rauchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449145161329062477noreply@blogger.com