tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post6948573233125616345..comments2024-03-13T23:42:25.845-07:00Comments on Animondays: Observations on The Animation Thesis Process and Student Mission StatementsDavid B. Levyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-84178937090722711122011-05-18T13:21:43.794-07:002011-05-18T13:21:43.794-07:00The underlying question is: what is the purpose of...The underlying question is: what is the purpose of an education?<br /><br />The other side of that: what is the duty of the school?<br /><br />Animation is a trade, sure, but more importantly it's a technique for visual, narrative, literary, musical and untold other forms of intellectual exploration.<br /><br />Should a school task itself with the installation of industry standard trade techniques, then these should clearly be the focus of a student's cumulative work.<br /><br />If a purpose of a school is to develop methods of understanding the world (included are technical skills) for the purpose of contributing to a universal dialogue then a significantly different approach to thesis work is required.<br /><br />These may sound like haughty, egg-headed words -but the end result of these academic policies shape not only this little field of filmmaking but vast scope of how a society functions intellectually.roconnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04933040935053560675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-40555077851804397542011-05-16T21:12:41.912-07:002011-05-16T21:12:41.912-07:00I just finished a graduate program that works exac...I just finished a graduate program that works exactly like how you describe - Carnegie Mellon's Entertainment Technology Center. For most of the two years we work in small teams on a variety of projects that usually last a semester. On occasion, a student pitch project, where a team of students form and pitch an idea, will be approved by the faculty to be funded for that semester. This past semester I was on a student pitch project to do an animated short film. Animation pitches are hard to get through, because a semester is a good time to prototype something innovative (which is what the school emphasizes) and less so to complete an actual final product. But even though we only had a semester of actual production, we had been working on our own time for the past year on the story and concept art and designs because we all love animation. Our team was 6 people split up into an animator (yep, just one animator!), technical artist, director/producer (who also did the compositing/editing), writer/sound designer, storyboard artist (who later jumped in to help me with texturing and lighting), and I was the art director. We had an outside composer and voice actors. And honestly, this has been the best team experience I had at school. Since we all brought such a wide range of skills, we all had something unique to contribute. And we had to learn exactly what skills were needed for something like this when we were forming our team. It was also great that we could just focus on the few things we were in charge of; I couldn't imagine trying to make the entire film all by myself. We also tried to run our project as much like a real studio as possible to best prepare us for working in this industry. And working together for that long means that we've all formed an inseparable bond and I consider my teammates lifelong friends. This was such an invaluable experience for all of us, and I'm grateful that I had the opportunity to do something like this while still in school.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11373645191077661561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-37130458979277404222011-05-16T16:57:12.559-07:002011-05-16T16:57:12.559-07:00Interesting post Dave.
When students ask me "...Interesting post Dave.<br /><br />When students ask me "What is the fastest way into the animation industry?" I always say the same thing:<br /><br />Pick one discipline and get your work to a professional standard. <br /><br />No-one will hire you if you're work isn't worth paying for, and the slowest way to get there is by doing ten different things at once.<br /><br />I love that some schools want to foster a new breed of auteur all-rounders, but I worry that students run the risk of emerging with broad experience, but a sub-par demo reel.<br /><br />Better to focus on one thing you like doing and become world-class.<br /><br />Thanks for the thought-provoking post.<br />--PhilPhil Willishttp://AnimationIdeas.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-64516592634427007652011-05-16T16:53:36.728-07:002011-05-16T16:53:36.728-07:00Chris, that sounds also like the way thesis films ...Chris, that sounds also like the way thesis films are made at the Gobelins school in Paris. Similar system. I think there is something to all this. Better results, with a more valuable learning experience. The one director thing doesn't bother me much because each key author of the film has a "director" like influence over their area.<br />There used to be the argument, "when else will a student get a chance to make their own film?" But, that doesn't hold water anymore. A student could make a film in a month in their own living room, without the school's help.David B. Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-5900256836628113652011-05-16T13:24:10.628-07:002011-05-16T13:24:10.628-07:00Hi Dave! Perhaps the local schools could learn fr...Hi Dave! Perhaps the local schools could learn from the way BYU does their final year films. From my understanding all the students pitch their films and vote on the one to make. That student becomes director and all the rest take up positions on the film. A lot of the animators, lighters, texture artists, layout artist and modelers get snatched up by the big studios right away because they were able to hone and show off a specific skill. Everyone has a high production value short to show at the end. Downside, like the real world, only one person gets to be the director.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16581487681954406675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-4358369582017624932011-05-16T08:33:03.588-07:002011-05-16T08:33:03.588-07:00Hey Smudge Animation,
That is a great question. I...Hey Smudge Animation, <br />That is a great question. It would be a waste if there were students in the equation that were relegated to grunt work or something so narrow that didn't involve helping to "co-author" the film. In the ideal scenario, all would share in the more menial production tasks like scanning, coloring, compositing, etc... but maybe there could be key "authorship" roles assigned per student: director/writer/art director/lead animator/etc... This is very much the way live action thesis films are broken down at the same universities.David B. Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-6462681688236933312011-05-16T08:27:07.112-07:002011-05-16T08:27:07.112-07:00Great Post David! Really speaks to where my though...Great Post David! Really speaks to where my thoughts have been lately. However, the one issue that has been my stumbling block is this: when grouping students together to work as teams, how do you tailor the experience such that every student has the opportunity to play every role in the production process--not just the one that they are good at? I can see a lot of work being shoved on the shoulders of the student who can draw/animate well, but the students who really need the practice drawing/animating getting relegated to coloring or backgrounds or clean-up. As much as I love the idea of a student team producing professional quality work, I'm concerned that it might not be a balanced experience for every student. Thoughts?Charles Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17223232596337545871noreply@blogger.com