tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post8440840562432825778..comments2024-03-13T23:42:25.845-07:00Comments on Animondays: The Ethics of IndiesDavid B. Levyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-38567131055080982132010-02-25T04:43:03.710-08:002010-02-25T04:43:03.710-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.marryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17811643324748313696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-68281237683597253932010-01-14T15:11:50.730-08:002010-01-14T15:11:50.730-08:00Thanks for clearing the air. As a longtime ASIFAGo...Thanks for clearing the air. As a longtime ASIFAGoer, hopefully I will finally meet you at the jury screenings in March (I hope it's not as controversial as last year's...and we all know what happened at last year's).BackToTheFührerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274128874025149040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-91245158658656965902010-01-14T14:38:10.476-08:002010-01-14T14:38:10.476-08:00Hi Back to the...
The injustice I'm thinking o...Hi Back to the...<br />The injustice I'm thinking of is that we have so many good filmmakers in this city (some going back years and years) and not all of them have been as good or as hard working at self-promotion as some... so the opportunity ASIFA-East has is that we can help spotlight some great work that might not be known as well as it deserves. That's all. <br /><br />Hope that clears some things up. And, you are correct that I could have been clearer on this topic. Sorry for any confusion.David B. Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-89125070274440832922010-01-14T14:32:16.831-08:002010-01-14T14:32:16.831-08:00Hello again. If it's not your position that in...Hello again. If it's not your position that indies are doing anything wrong than why blanket label it as an "injustice"? And why label your retrospective screenings "as a step in the right direction"? Correct me if I am wrong but it seems like your opinions on this matter are otherwise. And that's fine. Everyone's got opinions...it would just be nice if we stood behind them. If I knew that the animation screenings I enjoy were so wrought with behind-the-curtain drama I probably wouldn't be able to enjoy them so. To quote a favorite writer of mine: "A big part of being authentic is being open and large enough to keep your tailbone at the dinner table and your eyes on the television in the next room, unapologetic and charming in your duality. Yes, I'm watching the game, but God I love your lamb!"<br /> P.s. That drawing reminds me of my dog!BackToTheFührerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274128874025149040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-80122988873978312902010-01-14T14:17:34.823-08:002010-01-14T14:17:34.823-08:00Hi Jackal,
I can see you didn't have a good ex...Hi Jackal,<br />I can see you didn't have a good experience in my class. My SVA experience wasn't perfect either and I had classes that could have served me better too. We probably have a lot in common. I wish you had come to me during the semester to let me know how you were feeling.<br /><br />Peace,<br />DaveDavid B. Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-6703360100296650832010-01-14T12:59:05.365-08:002010-01-14T12:59:05.365-08:00everything about this blog makes me thankful that ...everything about this blog makes me thankful that i'm no longer in dave's self righteous sva class where i'm forced to listen to his version of ethics, which clearly only make sense to dave. <br /><br />sad thing is this post will probably be deleted lke always whenever anyone criticizes this crap.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10470619086796525620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-85410167772567515282010-01-14T11:00:47.262-08:002010-01-14T11:00:47.262-08:00great drawing dave.great drawing dave.Uncle Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782789250885810557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-45466514100752996982010-01-14T10:08:27.212-08:002010-01-14T10:08:27.212-08:00Hi "Back to the..."
Glad you enjoy the ...Hi "Back to the..."<br /><br />Glad you enjoy the blog. To clarify, it is not my position that the indies that make these screenings are doing anything wrong. I am reporting that I've heard others think it is an ethical issue, but I argue against that in the blog. <br /><br />Yes, all indies are free to make screenings and program events. I don't think anyone is victimizing anyone. But, certainly great talents have been left out in the shuffle, for whatever reason. So, with the platform of ASIFA-East, we can program so good events that remind about some unsung heroes.David B. Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-11506526024412965232010-01-14T09:33:59.422-08:002010-01-14T09:33:59.422-08:00Hello there. Long time fan of this blog. However t...Hello there. Long time fan of this blog. However this post gave me pause. I agree with Mr. Tsouris. This needs to be be better explained. As of now, it comes off as contradicting, the equivalent of a puppy chasing his tail (or snake eating its tail if you want to get bleak). Now I am not an animator, but as a fan of the NY animation scene, I clearly don't see what you see. In essence what I am taking from this is that, you've got a problem with animators (the awarded ones) creating their own screenings based on their own 'barometer' but to 'fix' that you're going to create a screening series of your own based on your own tastes? Isn't that running around in circles? I hate to put you on the couch but what are you really upset about? That the successful animators are are free to do what they want? I didn't realize we were living in One Nation Under Animondays. To echo Mr. Tsouris, if it bothers you don't go. Anyway, just wanted to put my two cents in here. Keep up the blog.<br /><br />P.s. I love the drawing on the top of this post.BackToTheFührerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274128874025149040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-29339754987319493282010-01-14T06:03:48.831-08:002010-01-14T06:03:48.831-08:00Most of the artwork hanging in our home is mine, a...Most of the artwork hanging in our home is mine, and I am very crass, so you are right.Elliot Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15952897418341461593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-22397767502262541542010-01-13T17:42:50.295-08:002010-01-13T17:42:50.295-08:00What does a short film screening have to do with &...What does a short film screening have to do with "selling yourself"?<br /><br />If you're organizing you're already promoting yourself.<br /><br />Curating your own work is like hanging your own paintings in your house. Sure, people do it all the time -I find it just a little distasteful.<br /><br />Whether someone does it not, I don't really care, but it's not something I would do.<br /><br />Now I'll put something a little different forward.<br /><br />Programming a screening is a creative statement in itself. A couple of Chris Robinson's competitions at Ottawa 09 were better than the sum of the individual films. Maybe one or two pieces were highlights, but the impact of the entire 90 minutes was unified.<br /><br />Do the other pieces in a presentation of shorts just become window dressing for artist's film? Usually, they do.roconnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04933040935053560675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-62642133336118687012010-01-13T15:20:41.108-08:002010-01-13T15:20:41.108-08:00Perhaps selling yourself is crass. But I don't...Perhaps selling yourself is crass. But I don't know of any successful artist who doesn't sell and promote herself. <br /><br />Programming the same cycle of films over and over again might, indeed, get boring. But unethical? And if programs are, in fact, boring, then don't go!<br /><br />Complaining about something like this seems to me that this person is too busy talking, and not busy doing something about it. (I recall your recent post about Carlos Saldanha.)Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13175400614261773704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-87974951369582624492010-01-13T13:13:50.997-08:002010-01-13T13:13:50.997-08:00I think the biggest problem is that if the same pe...I think the biggest problem is that if the same people program the same filmmakers into all their events, it becomes very boring. After a while, you've seen all those films. I like how our ASIFA jury screenings mix it all together. It's bit more exciting that way.David B. Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-35242619258086856112010-01-13T11:45:18.557-08:002010-01-13T11:45:18.557-08:00I think programming your own films is a little cra...I think programming your own films is a little crass, but it's not unethical.roconnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04933040935053560675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-17400111428446376442010-01-13T10:19:20.005-08:002010-01-13T10:19:20.005-08:00Hi George,
Yes, I have heard from several indies ...Hi George,<br /><br />Yes, I have heard from several indies who believe that filmmakers programming such events is unethical. So, my post is sort of an answer to that or speaking to that issue. But, I agree with your solution. Everyone is free to try to get their own screenings off the ground.David B. Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12611160893518781463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738814364413384768.post-38359355716087327982010-01-13T08:54:51.958-08:002010-01-13T08:54:51.958-08:00Perhaps I am missing something. You need to better...Perhaps I am missing something. You need to better explain how an ethical dilemma arises when someone is asked to select films she most appreciates to fit into an alloted time for a program. Did you actually have a conversation with someone who thought this was unethical?<br /><br />Anyone who really sees an ethical problem here should go out and create their own program and exhibit it. (In this case, you don't need to have earned respect through hard work, you just need to find the means to produce an exhibition (which doesn't have to be hard work).)<br /><br />A democratic solution only creates a different set of problems (who are the jury, judges, etc? what guidelines are they following in their judgement?).Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13175400614261773704noreply@blogger.com